Recommendation T/R 61-01 (Nice 1985, Paris 1992, August 1992, Nicosia
2003)
CEPT RADIO AMATEUR LICENCE
Recommendation proposed by the ''Radio Regulatory'' Working Group (RR)
Text of the Recommendation adopted by the "Electronic Communications
Committee" (ECC):
INTRODUCTION
The Recommendation as approved in 1985 makes it possible for radio
amateurs from CEPT countries to operate during short visits in other
CEPT countries without obtaining an individual temporary licence from
the visited CEPT country. Good experience with this system is gained.
The Recommendation as revised in 1992 has the aim to make it possible
for non-CEPT countries to participate in this licensing system. The
appropriate provisions for this are found mainly in the new Appendices
III and IV. The original Recommendation had to be adapted slightly,
but it retains the same applicability within CEPT as before.
The Recommendation as revised in 2003 reflects the outcome of WRC-03
concerning Article 25 of the ITU Radio Regulations. The mandatory
Morse code requirement has been removed and the number of amateur
classes has been reduced from two to one.
"The European Conference of Postal and Telecommunications
Administrations,
considering
a) that the Amateur Service and Amateur Satellite Service are
Radiocommunications Services according to Article 1 of the ITU Radio
Regulations and governed by other provisions of the ITU Radio
Regulations as well as national regulations,
b) that it is necessary to harmonise licensing procedures for
temporary use of radio amateur stations in CEPT countries and non-CEPT
countries,
c) that Administrations are responsible, in accordance with Article 25
of the ITU Radio Regulations to verify the operational and technical
qualifications of any person wishing to operate an amateur station.
d) that in accordance with Article 25 of the ITU Radio Regulations
(rev WRC-03), administrations shall determine whether or not a person
seeking a licence to operate an amateur station shall demonstrate the
ability to send and receive texts in Morse code signals;
e) that the ability to send and receive texts in Morse code signals is
not required for the purpose of this Recommendation;
f) that the issue and administration of temporary licences to foreign
visitors based on bilateral agreements involves a considerable
increase in work for Administrations,
g) that the International Amateur Radio Union (IARU) supports the
simplification of procedures to obtain temporary operational
privileges for foreign visitors in CEPT countries and in other
countries,
noting that
this Recommendation bears no relation to the import and export of
amateur radio equipment, which is subject only to relevant customs
regulations,
noting further that
despite the procedures of this Recommendation, Administrations always
have the right to require separate bilateral agreements when
recognising the radio amateur licences issued by foreign
Administrations,
recommends
1) that CEPT member Administrations recognise the principle of the
CEPT radio amateur licence issued under the conditions specified in
Appendices I and II, on which the Administrations of the countries
visited will not levy administrative charges or spectrum fees.
2) that Administrations, not being members of CEPT, accepting the
provisions of this Recommendation, may apply for participation in
accordance with the conditions laid down in Appendices III and IV".
Please check the ERO web site (http//:www.ERO.dk) for the up to date
position on the implementation of this and other ECC and ERC
Recommendations
Appendix I
GENERAL CONDITIONS FOR THE ISSUE OF THE
"CEPT RADIO AMATEUR LICENCE"
1. GENERAL PROVISIONS RELATING TO "CEPT RADIO AMATEUR LICENCE"
The ''CEPT radio amateur licence" can be included in the national
licence or be a special document issued by the same authority, and
will be drafted in the national language and in German, English and
French; it will be valid for non-residents only, for the duration of
their temporary stays in countries having adopted the Recommendation,
and within the limit of validity of the national licence. Radio
amateurs holding a temporary licence issued in a foreign country may
not benefit from the provisions of the Recommendation.
The minimum requirements for a "CEPT radio amateur licence'' will be:
i) indication that the document is a CEPT amateur licence;
ii) a declaration according to which the holder is authorised to
utilise an amateur radio station in accordance with this
Recommendation in countries where the latter applies;
iii) the name and address of the holder;
iv) the call sign;
v) the validity;
vi) the issuing authority.
A list may be added or provided indicating the Administrations
applying the Recommendation.
The CEPT Licence permits utilisation of all frequency bands allocated
to the Amateur Service and Amateur Satellite Service and authorised in
the country where the amateur station is to be operated.
2. CONDITIONS OF UTILISATION
2.1 On request the licence holder shall present his CEPT radio amateur
licence to the appropriate authorities in the country visited.
2.2 The licence holder shall observe the provisions of the ITU Radio
Regulations, this Recommendation and the regulations in force in the
country visited. Furthermore, any restrictions concerning national and
local conditions of a technical nature or regarding the public
authorities must be respected. Special attention should be paid to the
difference in frequency allocations to the radio amateur services in
the three ITU Regions.
2.3 When transmitting in the visited country the licence holder must
use his national call sign preceded by the call sign prefix of the
visited country as indicated in Appendices II and IV. The call sign
prefix and the national call sign must be separated by the character
"/" (telegraphy) or the word "stroke" (telephony).
2.4 The licence holder cannot request protection against harmful
interference.
3. EQUIVALENCE BETWEEN THE CEPT LICENCE AND NATIONAL LICENCES
3.1 The equivalence between the CEPT licence and national licences in
CEPT countries is given in Appendix II.
3.2 The equivalence between the CEPT licence and national licences in
non-CEPT countries is given in Appendix IV.
Recommendation T/R 61-01 (Nice 1985, Paris 1992, August 1992, Nicosia 2003)
CEPT RADIO AMATEUR LICENCE
Recommendation proposed by the ''Radio Regulatory'' Working Group (RR)
Text of the Recommendation adopted by the "Electronic Communications Committee" (ECC):
INTRODUCTION
The Recommendation as approved in 1985 makes it possible for radio amateurs from CEPT countries to operate during short visits in other CEPT countries without obtaining an individual temporary licence from the visited CEPT country. Good experience with this system is gained.
The Recommendation as revised in 1992 has the aim to make it possible for non-CEPT countries to participate in this licensing system. The appropriate provisions for this are found mainly in the new Appendices III and IV. The original Recommendation had to be adapted slightly, but it retains the same applicability within CEPT as before.
The Recommendation as revised in 2003 reflects the outcome of WRC-03 concerning Article 25 of the ITU Radio Regulations. The mandatory Morse code requirement has been removed and the number of amateur classes has been reduced from two to one.
"The European Conference of Postal and Telecommunications Administrations,
considering
a) that the Amateur Service and Amateur Satellite Service are Radiocommunications Services according to Article 1 of the ITU Radio Regulations and governed by other provisions of the ITU Radio Regulations as well as national regulations,
b) that it is necessary to harmonise licensing procedures for temporary use of radio amateur stations in CEPT countries and non-CEPT countries,
c) that Administrations are responsible, in accordance with Article 25 of the ITU Radio Regulations to verify the operational and technical qualifications of any person wishing to operate an amateur station.
d) that in accordance with Article 25 of the ITU Radio Regulations (rev WRC-03), administrations shall determine whether or not a person seeking a licence to operate an amateur station shall demonstrate the ability to send and receive texts in Morse code signals;
e) that the ability to send and receive texts in Morse code signals is not required for the purpose of this Recommendation; f) that the issue and administration of temporary licences to foreign visitors based on bilateral agreements involves a considerable increase in work for Administrations,
g) that the International Amateur Radio Union (IARU) supports the simplification of procedures to obtain temporary operational privileges for foreign visitors in CEPT countries and in other countries,
noting that
this Recommendation bears no relation to the import and export of amateur radio equipment, which is subject only to relevant customs regulations,
noting further that
despite the procedures of this Recommendation, Administrations always have the right to require separate bilateral agreements when recognising the radio amateur licences issued by foreign Administrations,
recommends
1) that CEPT member Administrations recognise the principle of the CEPT radio amateur licence issued under the conditions specified in Appendices I and II, on which the Administrations of the countries visited will not levy administrative charges or spectrum fees.
2) that Administrations, not being members of CEPT, accepting the provisions of this Recommendation, may apply for participation in accordance with the conditions laid down in Appendices III and IV".
Please check the ERO web site (http//:www.ERO.dk) for the up to date position on the implementation of this and other ECC and ERC Recommendations
Appendix I
GENERAL CONDITIONS FOR THE ISSUE OF THE "CEPT RADIO AMATEUR LICENCE"
1. GENERAL PROVISIONS RELATING TO "CEPT RADIO AMATEUR LICENCE"
The ''CEPT radio amateur licence" can be included in the national licence or be a special document issued by the same authority, and will be drafted in the national language and in German, English and French; it will be valid for non-residents only, for the duration of their temporary stays in countries having adopted the Recommendation, and within the limit of validity of the national licence. Radio amateurs holding a temporary licence issued in a foreign country may not benefit from the provisions of the Recommendation.
The minimum requirements for a "CEPT radio amateur licence'' will be:
i) indication that the document is a CEPT amateur licence; ii) a declaration according to which the holder is authorised to utilise an amateur radio station in accordance with this Recommendation in countries where the latter applies; iii) the name and address of the holder; iv) the call sign; v) the validity; vi) the issuing authority.
A list may be added or provided indicating the Administrations applying the Recommendation.
The CEPT Licence permits utilisation of all frequency bands allocated to the Amateur Service and Amateur Satellite Service and authorised in the country where the amateur station is to be operated. 2. CONDITIONS OF UTILISATION
2.1 On request the licence holder shall present his CEPT radio amateur licence to the appropriate authorities in the country visited.
2.2 The licence holder shall observe the provisions of the ITU Radio Regulations, this Recommendation and the regulations in force in the country visited. Furthermore, any restrictions concerning national and local conditions of a technical nature or regarding the public authorities must be respected. Special attention should be paid to the difference in frequency allocations to the radio amateur services in the three ITU Regions.
2.3 When transmitting in the visited country the licence holder must use his national call sign preceded by the call sign prefix of the visited country as indicated in Appendices II and IV. The call sign prefix and the national call sign must be separated by the character "/" (telegraphy) or the word "stroke" (telephony).
2.4 The licence holder cannot request protection against harmful interference.
3. EQUIVALENCE BETWEEN THE CEPT LICENCE AND NATIONAL LICENCES
3.1 The equivalence between the CEPT licence and national licences in CEPT countries is given in Appendix II.
3.2 The equivalence between the CEPT licence and national licences in non-CEPT countries is given in Appendix IV.
Oui, ben c'est le texte dont tout le monde parle depuis des lustres... Ce
n'est pas son application en France...
La seule chose à attendre c'est la décision officielle et sa publication au
journal officielle... tout le reste, c'est bidon ! ... Ou du spam.
"J.D." <f1bjj@f1bjj.org> a écrit dans le message de news:
bnirq4$vq0$1@news-reader5.wanadoo.fr...
Recommendation T/R 61-01 (Nice 1985, Paris 1992, August 1992, Nicosia
2003)
CEPT RADIO AMATEUR LICENCE
Recommendation proposed by the ''Radio Regulatory'' Working Group (RR)
Text of the Recommendation adopted by the "Electronic Communications
Committee" (ECC):
INTRODUCTION
The Recommendation as approved in 1985 makes it possible for radio
amateurs from CEPT countries to operate during short visits in other
CEPT countries without obtaining an individual temporary licence from
the visited CEPT country. Good experience with this system is gained.
The Recommendation as revised in 1992 has the aim to make it possible
for non-CEPT countries to participate in this licensing system. The
appropriate provisions for this are found mainly in the new Appendices
III and IV. The original Recommendation had to be adapted slightly,
but it retains the same applicability within CEPT as before.
The Recommendation as revised in 2003 reflects the outcome of WRC-03
concerning Article 25 of the ITU Radio Regulations. The mandatory
Morse code requirement has been removed and the number of amateur
classes has been reduced from two to one.
"The European Conference of Postal and Telecommunications
Administrations,
considering
a) that the Amateur Service and Amateur Satellite Service are
Radiocommunications Services according to Article 1 of the ITU Radio
Regulations and governed by other provisions of the ITU Radio
Regulations as well as national regulations,
b) that it is necessary to harmonise licensing procedures for
temporary use of radio amateur stations in CEPT countries and non-CEPT
countries,
c) that Administrations are responsible, in accordance with Article 25
of the ITU Radio Regulations to verify the operational and technical
qualifications of any person wishing to operate an amateur station.
d) that in accordance with Article 25 of the ITU Radio Regulations
(rev WRC-03), administrations shall determine whether or not a person
seeking a licence to operate an amateur station shall demonstrate the
ability to send and receive texts in Morse code signals;
e) that the ability to send and receive texts in Morse code signals is
not required for the purpose of this Recommendation;
f) that the issue and administration of temporary licences to foreign
visitors based on bilateral agreements involves a considerable
increase in work for Administrations,
g) that the International Amateur Radio Union (IARU) supports the
simplification of procedures to obtain temporary operational
privileges for foreign visitors in CEPT countries and in other
countries,
noting that
this Recommendation bears no relation to the import and export of
amateur radio equipment, which is subject only to relevant customs
regulations,
noting further that
despite the procedures of this Recommendation, Administrations always
have the right to require separate bilateral agreements when
recognising the radio amateur licences issued by foreign
Administrations,
recommends
1) that CEPT member Administrations recognise the principle of the
CEPT radio amateur licence issued under the conditions specified in
Appendices I and II, on which the Administrations of the countries
visited will not levy administrative charges or spectrum fees.
2) that Administrations, not being members of CEPT, accepting the
provisions of this Recommendation, may apply for participation in
accordance with the conditions laid down in Appendices III and IV".
Please check the ERO web site (http//:www.ERO.dk) for the up to date
position on the implementation of this and other ECC and ERC
Recommendations
Appendix I
GENERAL CONDITIONS FOR THE ISSUE OF THE
"CEPT RADIO AMATEUR LICENCE"
1. GENERAL PROVISIONS RELATING TO "CEPT RADIO AMATEUR LICENCE"
The ''CEPT radio amateur licence" can be included in the national
licence or be a special document issued by the same authority, and
will be drafted in the national language and in German, English and
French; it will be valid for non-residents only, for the duration of
their temporary stays in countries having adopted the Recommendation,
and within the limit of validity of the national licence. Radio
amateurs holding a temporary licence issued in a foreign country may
not benefit from the provisions of the Recommendation.
The minimum requirements for a "CEPT radio amateur licence'' will be:
i) indication that the document is a CEPT amateur licence;
ii) a declaration according to which the holder is authorised to
utilise an amateur radio station in accordance with this
Recommendation in countries where the latter applies;
iii) the name and address of the holder;
iv) the call sign;
v) the validity;
vi) the issuing authority.
A list may be added or provided indicating the Administrations
applying the Recommendation.
The CEPT Licence permits utilisation of all frequency bands allocated
to the Amateur Service and Amateur Satellite Service and authorised in
the country where the amateur station is to be operated.
2. CONDITIONS OF UTILISATION
2.1 On request the licence holder shall present his CEPT radio amateur
licence to the appropriate authorities in the country visited.
2.2 The licence holder shall observe the provisions of the ITU Radio
Regulations, this Recommendation and the regulations in force in the
country visited. Furthermore, any restrictions concerning national and
local conditions of a technical nature or regarding the public
authorities must be respected. Special attention should be paid to the
difference in frequency allocations to the radio amateur services in
the three ITU Regions.
2.3 When transmitting in the visited country the licence holder must
use his national call sign preceded by the call sign prefix of the
visited country as indicated in Appendices II and IV. The call sign
prefix and the national call sign must be separated by the character
"/" (telegraphy) or the word "stroke" (telephony).
2.4 The licence holder cannot request protection against harmful
interference.
3. EQUIVALENCE BETWEEN THE CEPT LICENCE AND NATIONAL LICENCES
3.1 The equivalence between the CEPT licence and national licences in
CEPT countries is given in Appendix II.
3.2 The equivalence between the CEPT licence and national licences in
non-CEPT countries is given in Appendix IV.
Recommendation T/R 61-01 (Nice 1985, Paris 1992, August 1992, Nicosia 2003)
CEPT RADIO AMATEUR LICENCE
Recommendation proposed by the ''Radio Regulatory'' Working Group (RR)
Text of the Recommendation adopted by the "Electronic Communications Committee" (ECC):
INTRODUCTION
The Recommendation as approved in 1985 makes it possible for radio amateurs from CEPT countries to operate during short visits in other CEPT countries without obtaining an individual temporary licence from the visited CEPT country. Good experience with this system is gained.
The Recommendation as revised in 1992 has the aim to make it possible for non-CEPT countries to participate in this licensing system. The appropriate provisions for this are found mainly in the new Appendices III and IV. The original Recommendation had to be adapted slightly, but it retains the same applicability within CEPT as before.
The Recommendation as revised in 2003 reflects the outcome of WRC-03 concerning Article 25 of the ITU Radio Regulations. The mandatory Morse code requirement has been removed and the number of amateur classes has been reduced from two to one.
"The European Conference of Postal and Telecommunications Administrations,
considering
a) that the Amateur Service and Amateur Satellite Service are Radiocommunications Services according to Article 1 of the ITU Radio Regulations and governed by other provisions of the ITU Radio Regulations as well as national regulations,
b) that it is necessary to harmonise licensing procedures for temporary use of radio amateur stations in CEPT countries and non-CEPT countries,
c) that Administrations are responsible, in accordance with Article 25 of the ITU Radio Regulations to verify the operational and technical qualifications of any person wishing to operate an amateur station.
d) that in accordance with Article 25 of the ITU Radio Regulations (rev WRC-03), administrations shall determine whether or not a person seeking a licence to operate an amateur station shall demonstrate the ability to send and receive texts in Morse code signals;
e) that the ability to send and receive texts in Morse code signals is not required for the purpose of this Recommendation; f) that the issue and administration of temporary licences to foreign visitors based on bilateral agreements involves a considerable increase in work for Administrations,
g) that the International Amateur Radio Union (IARU) supports the simplification of procedures to obtain temporary operational privileges for foreign visitors in CEPT countries and in other countries,
noting that
this Recommendation bears no relation to the import and export of amateur radio equipment, which is subject only to relevant customs regulations,
noting further that
despite the procedures of this Recommendation, Administrations always have the right to require separate bilateral agreements when recognising the radio amateur licences issued by foreign Administrations,
recommends
1) that CEPT member Administrations recognise the principle of the CEPT radio amateur licence issued under the conditions specified in Appendices I and II, on which the Administrations of the countries visited will not levy administrative charges or spectrum fees.
2) that Administrations, not being members of CEPT, accepting the provisions of this Recommendation, may apply for participation in accordance with the conditions laid down in Appendices III and IV".
Please check the ERO web site (http//:www.ERO.dk) for the up to date position on the implementation of this and other ECC and ERC Recommendations
Appendix I
GENERAL CONDITIONS FOR THE ISSUE OF THE "CEPT RADIO AMATEUR LICENCE"
1. GENERAL PROVISIONS RELATING TO "CEPT RADIO AMATEUR LICENCE"
The ''CEPT radio amateur licence" can be included in the national licence or be a special document issued by the same authority, and will be drafted in the national language and in German, English and French; it will be valid for non-residents only, for the duration of their temporary stays in countries having adopted the Recommendation, and within the limit of validity of the national licence. Radio amateurs holding a temporary licence issued in a foreign country may not benefit from the provisions of the Recommendation.
The minimum requirements for a "CEPT radio amateur licence'' will be:
i) indication that the document is a CEPT amateur licence; ii) a declaration according to which the holder is authorised to utilise an amateur radio station in accordance with this Recommendation in countries where the latter applies; iii) the name and address of the holder; iv) the call sign; v) the validity; vi) the issuing authority.
A list may be added or provided indicating the Administrations applying the Recommendation.
The CEPT Licence permits utilisation of all frequency bands allocated to the Amateur Service and Amateur Satellite Service and authorised in the country where the amateur station is to be operated. 2. CONDITIONS OF UTILISATION
2.1 On request the licence holder shall present his CEPT radio amateur licence to the appropriate authorities in the country visited.
2.2 The licence holder shall observe the provisions of the ITU Radio Regulations, this Recommendation and the regulations in force in the country visited. Furthermore, any restrictions concerning national and local conditions of a technical nature or regarding the public authorities must be respected. Special attention should be paid to the difference in frequency allocations to the radio amateur services in the three ITU Regions.
2.3 When transmitting in the visited country the licence holder must use his national call sign preceded by the call sign prefix of the visited country as indicated in Appendices II and IV. The call sign prefix and the national call sign must be separated by the character "/" (telegraphy) or the word "stroke" (telephony).
2.4 The licence holder cannot request protection against harmful interference.
3. EQUIVALENCE BETWEEN THE CEPT LICENCE AND NATIONAL LICENCES
3.1 The equivalence between the CEPT licence and national licences in CEPT countries is given in Appendix II.
3.2 The equivalence between the CEPT licence and national licences in non-CEPT countries is given in Appendix IV.
J.D.
"F5MJV Vincent" a écrit dans le message de news:bnisbh$aqd$
Oui, ben c'est le texte dont tout le monde parle depuis des
lustres... Ce
n'est pas son application en France...
La seule chose à attendre c'est la décision officielle et sa
publication au
journal officielle... tout le reste, c'est bidon ! ... Ou du spam.
C'est de l'information !
La France n'est pas membre de la CEPT ?
Réjouissons nous mes frères, les intégristes de la CW n'ont pas fini de sévir !
F1BJJ
"F5MJV Vincent" <F5MJV_nomail@wanadoo.fr> a écrit dans le message de
news:bnisbh$aqd$1@news-reader4.wanadoo.fr...
Oui, ben c'est le texte dont tout le monde parle depuis des
lustres... Ce
n'est pas son application en France...
La seule chose à attendre c'est la décision officielle et sa
publication au
journal officielle... tout le reste, c'est bidon ! ... Ou du spam.
C'est de l'information !
La France n'est pas membre de la CEPT ?
Réjouissons nous mes frères, les intégristes de la CW n'ont pas fini
de sévir !
"F5MJV Vincent" a écrit dans le message de news:bnisbh$aqd$
Oui, ben c'est le texte dont tout le monde parle depuis des
lustres... Ce
n'est pas son application en France...
La seule chose à attendre c'est la décision officielle et sa
publication au
journal officielle... tout le reste, c'est bidon ! ... Ou du spam.
C'est de l'information !
La France n'est pas membre de la CEPT ?
Réjouissons nous mes frères, les intégristes de la CW n'ont pas fini de sévir !
F1BJJ
F4ASK
"F5MJV Vincent" a cru bon de raconter en ce si beau jour news:bnisbh$aqd$:
Oui, ben c'est le texte dont tout le monde parle depuis des lustres... Ce n'est pas son application en France...
Exact Vincent mais il en est qui ont la comprenette un peu difficile...
La seule chose à attendre c'est la décision officielle et sa publication au journal officielle... tout le reste, c'est bidon ! ... Ou du spam.
Eh oui ! C'est comme les directives européennes qui doivent être transcrites en droit national et transformées en lois votées par l'Assemblée Nationale et le Sénat, publiées au J.O.R.F. et munies de leur décret d'application en bonne forme publié au J.O.R.F. de la même façon.
Mais il semble que ceci doit être répété et rerépété.
La France est un état souverain et non un simple "province" de l'Europe.
-- Gilbert Station amateur F4ASK LE HAVRE
"F5MJV Vincent" <F5MJV_nomail@wanadoo.fr> a cru bon de raconter en ce si
beau jour news:bnisbh$aqd$1@news-reader4.wanadoo.fr:
Oui, ben c'est le texte dont tout le monde parle depuis des lustres...
Ce n'est pas son application en France...
Exact Vincent mais il en est qui ont la comprenette un peu difficile...
La seule chose à attendre c'est la décision officielle et sa
publication au journal officielle... tout le reste, c'est bidon ! ...
Ou du spam.
Eh oui ! C'est comme les directives européennes qui doivent être
transcrites en droit national et transformées en lois votées par
l'Assemblée Nationale et le Sénat, publiées au J.O.R.F. et munies de leur
décret d'application en bonne forme publié au J.O.R.F. de la même façon.
Mais il semble que ceci doit être répété et rerépété.
La France est un état souverain et non un simple "province" de l'Europe.
"F5MJV Vincent" a cru bon de raconter en ce si beau jour news:bnisbh$aqd$:
Oui, ben c'est le texte dont tout le monde parle depuis des lustres... Ce n'est pas son application en France...
Exact Vincent mais il en est qui ont la comprenette un peu difficile...
La seule chose à attendre c'est la décision officielle et sa publication au journal officielle... tout le reste, c'est bidon ! ... Ou du spam.
Eh oui ! C'est comme les directives européennes qui doivent être transcrites en droit national et transformées en lois votées par l'Assemblée Nationale et le Sénat, publiées au J.O.R.F. et munies de leur décret d'application en bonne forme publié au J.O.R.F. de la même façon.
Mais il semble que ceci doit être répété et rerépété.
La France est un état souverain et non un simple "province" de l'Europe.
-- Gilbert Station amateur F4ASK LE HAVRE
Thierry
Sage décision, mais ca ne suffit pas. Aux Etats-Unis par exemple, il y aura du Morse à 5mpm pour travaille en HF. Alors l'équivalent CEPT et le reste du monde, j'attends de voir la suite.
Recommendation T/R 61-01 (Nice 1985, Paris 1992, August 1992, Nicosia 2003)
CEPT RADIO AMATEUR LICENCE
Recommendation proposed by the ''Radio Regulatory'' Working Group (RR)
Text of the Recommendation adopted by the "Electronic Communications Committee" (ECC):
INTRODUCTION
The Recommendation as approved in 1985 makes it possible for radio amateurs from CEPT countries to operate during short visits in other CEPT countries without obtaining an individual temporary licence from the visited CEPT country. Good experience with this system is gained.
The Recommendation as revised in 1992 has the aim to make it possible for non-CEPT countries to participate in this licensing system. The appropriate provisions for this are found mainly in the new Appendices III and IV. The original Recommendation had to be adapted slightly, but it retains the same applicability within CEPT as before.
The Recommendation as revised in 2003 reflects the outcome of WRC-03 concerning Article 25 of the ITU Radio Regulations. The mandatory Morse code requirement has been removed and the number of amateur classes has been reduced from two to one.
"The European Conference of Postal and Telecommunications Administrations,
considering
a) that the Amateur Service and Amateur Satellite Service are Radiocommunications Services according to Article 1 of the ITU Radio Regulations and governed by other provisions of the ITU Radio Regulations as well as national regulations,
b) that it is necessary to harmonise licensing procedures for temporary use of radio amateur stations in CEPT countries and non-CEPT countries,
c) that Administrations are responsible, in accordance with Article 25 of the ITU Radio Regulations to verify the operational and technical qualifications of any person wishing to operate an amateur station.
d) that in accordance with Article 25 of the ITU Radio Regulations (rev WRC-03), administrations shall determine whether or not a person seeking a licence to operate an amateur station shall demonstrate the ability to send and receive texts in Morse code signals;
e) that the ability to send and receive texts in Morse code signals is not required for the purpose of this Recommendation; f) that the issue and administration of temporary licences to foreign visitors based on bilateral agreements involves a considerable increase in work for Administrations,
g) that the International Amateur Radio Union (IARU) supports the simplification of procedures to obtain temporary operational privileges for foreign visitors in CEPT countries and in other countries,
noting that
this Recommendation bears no relation to the import and export of amateur radio equipment, which is subject only to relevant customs regulations,
noting further that
despite the procedures of this Recommendation, Administrations always have the right to require separate bilateral agreements when recognising the radio amateur licences issued by foreign Administrations,
recommends
1) that CEPT member Administrations recognise the principle of the CEPT radio amateur licence issued under the conditions specified in Appendices I and II, on which the Administrations of the countries visited will not levy administrative charges or spectrum fees.
2) that Administrations, not being members of CEPT, accepting the provisions of this Recommendation, may apply for participation in accordance with the conditions laid down in Appendices III and IV".
Please check the ERO web site (http//:www.ERO.dk) for the up to date position on the implementation of this and other ECC and ERC Recommendations
Appendix I
GENERAL CONDITIONS FOR THE ISSUE OF THE "CEPT RADIO AMATEUR LICENCE"
1. GENERAL PROVISIONS RELATING TO "CEPT RADIO AMATEUR LICENCE"
The ''CEPT radio amateur licence" can be included in the national licence or be a special document issued by the same authority, and will be drafted in the national language and in German, English and French; it will be valid for non-residents only, for the duration of their temporary stays in countries having adopted the Recommendation, and within the limit of validity of the national licence. Radio amateurs holding a temporary licence issued in a foreign country may not benefit from the provisions of the Recommendation.
The minimum requirements for a "CEPT radio amateur licence'' will be:
i) indication that the document is a CEPT amateur licence; ii) a declaration according to which the holder is authorised to utilise an amateur radio station in accordance with this Recommendation in countries where the latter applies; iii) the name and address of the holder; iv) the call sign; v) the validity; vi) the issuing authority.
A list may be added or provided indicating the Administrations applying the Recommendation.
The CEPT Licence permits utilisation of all frequency bands allocated to the Amateur Service and Amateur Satellite Service and authorised in the country where the amateur station is to be operated. 2. CONDITIONS OF UTILISATION
2.1 On request the licence holder shall present his CEPT radio amateur licence to the appropriate authorities in the country visited.
2.2 The licence holder shall observe the provisions of the ITU Radio Regulations, this Recommendation and the regulations in force in the country visited. Furthermore, any restrictions concerning national and local conditions of a technical nature or regarding the public authorities must be respected. Special attention should be paid to the difference in frequency allocations to the radio amateur services in the three ITU Regions.
2.3 When transmitting in the visited country the licence holder must use his national call sign preceded by the call sign prefix of the visited country as indicated in Appendices II and IV. The call sign prefix and the national call sign must be separated by the character "/" (telegraphy) or the word "stroke" (telephony).
2.4 The licence holder cannot request protection against harmful interference.
3. EQUIVALENCE BETWEEN THE CEPT LICENCE AND NATIONAL LICENCES
3.1 The equivalence between the CEPT licence and national licences in CEPT countries is given in Appendix II.
3.2 The equivalence between the CEPT licence and national licences in non-CEPT countries is given in Appendix IV.
Sage décision, mais ca ne suffit pas.
Aux Etats-Unis par exemple, il y aura du Morse à 5mpm pour travaille en HF.
Alors l'équivalent CEPT et le reste du monde, j'attends de voir la suite.
Recommendation T/R 61-01 (Nice 1985, Paris 1992, August 1992, Nicosia
2003)
CEPT RADIO AMATEUR LICENCE
Recommendation proposed by the ''Radio Regulatory'' Working Group (RR)
Text of the Recommendation adopted by the "Electronic Communications
Committee" (ECC):
INTRODUCTION
The Recommendation as approved in 1985 makes it possible for radio
amateurs from CEPT countries to operate during short visits in other
CEPT countries without obtaining an individual temporary licence from
the visited CEPT country. Good experience with this system is gained.
The Recommendation as revised in 1992 has the aim to make it possible
for non-CEPT countries to participate in this licensing system. The
appropriate provisions for this are found mainly in the new Appendices
III and IV. The original Recommendation had to be adapted slightly,
but it retains the same applicability within CEPT as before.
The Recommendation as revised in 2003 reflects the outcome of WRC-03
concerning Article 25 of the ITU Radio Regulations. The mandatory
Morse code requirement has been removed and the number of amateur
classes has been reduced from two to one.
"The European Conference of Postal and Telecommunications
Administrations,
considering
a) that the Amateur Service and Amateur Satellite Service are
Radiocommunications Services according to Article 1 of the ITU Radio
Regulations and governed by other provisions of the ITU Radio
Regulations as well as national regulations,
b) that it is necessary to harmonise licensing procedures for
temporary use of radio amateur stations in CEPT countries and non-CEPT
countries,
c) that Administrations are responsible, in accordance with Article 25
of the ITU Radio Regulations to verify the operational and technical
qualifications of any person wishing to operate an amateur station.
d) that in accordance with Article 25 of the ITU Radio Regulations
(rev WRC-03), administrations shall determine whether or not a person
seeking a licence to operate an amateur station shall demonstrate the
ability to send and receive texts in Morse code signals;
e) that the ability to send and receive texts in Morse code signals is
not required for the purpose of this Recommendation;
f) that the issue and administration of temporary licences to foreign
visitors based on bilateral agreements involves a considerable
increase in work for Administrations,
g) that the International Amateur Radio Union (IARU) supports the
simplification of procedures to obtain temporary operational
privileges for foreign visitors in CEPT countries and in other
countries,
noting that
this Recommendation bears no relation to the import and export of
amateur radio equipment, which is subject only to relevant customs
regulations,
noting further that
despite the procedures of this Recommendation, Administrations always
have the right to require separate bilateral agreements when
recognising the radio amateur licences issued by foreign
Administrations,
recommends
1) that CEPT member Administrations recognise the principle of the
CEPT radio amateur licence issued under the conditions specified in
Appendices I and II, on which the Administrations of the countries
visited will not levy administrative charges or spectrum fees.
2) that Administrations, not being members of CEPT, accepting the
provisions of this Recommendation, may apply for participation in
accordance with the conditions laid down in Appendices III and IV".
Please check the ERO web site (http//:www.ERO.dk) for the up to date
position on the implementation of this and other ECC and ERC
Recommendations
Appendix I
GENERAL CONDITIONS FOR THE ISSUE OF THE
"CEPT RADIO AMATEUR LICENCE"
1. GENERAL PROVISIONS RELATING TO "CEPT RADIO AMATEUR LICENCE"
The ''CEPT radio amateur licence" can be included in the national
licence or be a special document issued by the same authority, and
will be drafted in the national language and in German, English and
French; it will be valid for non-residents only, for the duration of
their temporary stays in countries having adopted the Recommendation,
and within the limit of validity of the national licence. Radio
amateurs holding a temporary licence issued in a foreign country may
not benefit from the provisions of the Recommendation.
The minimum requirements for a "CEPT radio amateur licence'' will be:
i) indication that the document is a CEPT amateur licence;
ii) a declaration according to which the holder is authorised to
utilise an amateur radio station in accordance with this
Recommendation in countries where the latter applies;
iii) the name and address of the holder;
iv) the call sign;
v) the validity;
vi) the issuing authority.
A list may be added or provided indicating the Administrations
applying the Recommendation.
The CEPT Licence permits utilisation of all frequency bands allocated
to the Amateur Service and Amateur Satellite Service and authorised in
the country where the amateur station is to be operated.
2. CONDITIONS OF UTILISATION
2.1 On request the licence holder shall present his CEPT radio amateur
licence to the appropriate authorities in the country visited.
2.2 The licence holder shall observe the provisions of the ITU Radio
Regulations, this Recommendation and the regulations in force in the
country visited. Furthermore, any restrictions concerning national and
local conditions of a technical nature or regarding the public
authorities must be respected. Special attention should be paid to the
difference in frequency allocations to the radio amateur services in
the three ITU Regions.
2.3 When transmitting in the visited country the licence holder must
use his national call sign preceded by the call sign prefix of the
visited country as indicated in Appendices II and IV. The call sign
prefix and the national call sign must be separated by the character
"/" (telegraphy) or the word "stroke" (telephony).
2.4 The licence holder cannot request protection against harmful
interference.
3. EQUIVALENCE BETWEEN THE CEPT LICENCE AND NATIONAL LICENCES
3.1 The equivalence between the CEPT licence and national licences in
CEPT countries is given in Appendix II.
3.2 The equivalence between the CEPT licence and national licences in
non-CEPT countries is given in Appendix IV.
Sage décision, mais ca ne suffit pas. Aux Etats-Unis par exemple, il y aura du Morse à 5mpm pour travaille en HF. Alors l'équivalent CEPT et le reste du monde, j'attends de voir la suite.
Recommendation T/R 61-01 (Nice 1985, Paris 1992, August 1992, Nicosia 2003)
CEPT RADIO AMATEUR LICENCE
Recommendation proposed by the ''Radio Regulatory'' Working Group (RR)
Text of the Recommendation adopted by the "Electronic Communications Committee" (ECC):
INTRODUCTION
The Recommendation as approved in 1985 makes it possible for radio amateurs from CEPT countries to operate during short visits in other CEPT countries without obtaining an individual temporary licence from the visited CEPT country. Good experience with this system is gained.
The Recommendation as revised in 1992 has the aim to make it possible for non-CEPT countries to participate in this licensing system. The appropriate provisions for this are found mainly in the new Appendices III and IV. The original Recommendation had to be adapted slightly, but it retains the same applicability within CEPT as before.
The Recommendation as revised in 2003 reflects the outcome of WRC-03 concerning Article 25 of the ITU Radio Regulations. The mandatory Morse code requirement has been removed and the number of amateur classes has been reduced from two to one.
"The European Conference of Postal and Telecommunications Administrations,
considering
a) that the Amateur Service and Amateur Satellite Service are Radiocommunications Services according to Article 1 of the ITU Radio Regulations and governed by other provisions of the ITU Radio Regulations as well as national regulations,
b) that it is necessary to harmonise licensing procedures for temporary use of radio amateur stations in CEPT countries and non-CEPT countries,
c) that Administrations are responsible, in accordance with Article 25 of the ITU Radio Regulations to verify the operational and technical qualifications of any person wishing to operate an amateur station.
d) that in accordance with Article 25 of the ITU Radio Regulations (rev WRC-03), administrations shall determine whether or not a person seeking a licence to operate an amateur station shall demonstrate the ability to send and receive texts in Morse code signals;
e) that the ability to send and receive texts in Morse code signals is not required for the purpose of this Recommendation; f) that the issue and administration of temporary licences to foreign visitors based on bilateral agreements involves a considerable increase in work for Administrations,
g) that the International Amateur Radio Union (IARU) supports the simplification of procedures to obtain temporary operational privileges for foreign visitors in CEPT countries and in other countries,
noting that
this Recommendation bears no relation to the import and export of amateur radio equipment, which is subject only to relevant customs regulations,
noting further that
despite the procedures of this Recommendation, Administrations always have the right to require separate bilateral agreements when recognising the radio amateur licences issued by foreign Administrations,
recommends
1) that CEPT member Administrations recognise the principle of the CEPT radio amateur licence issued under the conditions specified in Appendices I and II, on which the Administrations of the countries visited will not levy administrative charges or spectrum fees.
2) that Administrations, not being members of CEPT, accepting the provisions of this Recommendation, may apply for participation in accordance with the conditions laid down in Appendices III and IV".
Please check the ERO web site (http//:www.ERO.dk) for the up to date position on the implementation of this and other ECC and ERC Recommendations
Appendix I
GENERAL CONDITIONS FOR THE ISSUE OF THE "CEPT RADIO AMATEUR LICENCE"
1. GENERAL PROVISIONS RELATING TO "CEPT RADIO AMATEUR LICENCE"
The ''CEPT radio amateur licence" can be included in the national licence or be a special document issued by the same authority, and will be drafted in the national language and in German, English and French; it will be valid for non-residents only, for the duration of their temporary stays in countries having adopted the Recommendation, and within the limit of validity of the national licence. Radio amateurs holding a temporary licence issued in a foreign country may not benefit from the provisions of the Recommendation.
The minimum requirements for a "CEPT radio amateur licence'' will be:
i) indication that the document is a CEPT amateur licence; ii) a declaration according to which the holder is authorised to utilise an amateur radio station in accordance with this Recommendation in countries where the latter applies; iii) the name and address of the holder; iv) the call sign; v) the validity; vi) the issuing authority.
A list may be added or provided indicating the Administrations applying the Recommendation.
The CEPT Licence permits utilisation of all frequency bands allocated to the Amateur Service and Amateur Satellite Service and authorised in the country where the amateur station is to be operated. 2. CONDITIONS OF UTILISATION
2.1 On request the licence holder shall present his CEPT radio amateur licence to the appropriate authorities in the country visited.
2.2 The licence holder shall observe the provisions of the ITU Radio Regulations, this Recommendation and the regulations in force in the country visited. Furthermore, any restrictions concerning national and local conditions of a technical nature or regarding the public authorities must be respected. Special attention should be paid to the difference in frequency allocations to the radio amateur services in the three ITU Regions.
2.3 When transmitting in the visited country the licence holder must use his national call sign preceded by the call sign prefix of the visited country as indicated in Appendices II and IV. The call sign prefix and the national call sign must be separated by the character "/" (telegraphy) or the word "stroke" (telephony).
2.4 The licence holder cannot request protection against harmful interference.
3. EQUIVALENCE BETWEEN THE CEPT LICENCE AND NATIONAL LICENCES
3.1 The equivalence between the CEPT licence and national licences in CEPT countries is given in Appendix II.
3.2 The equivalence between the CEPT licence and national licences in non-CEPT countries is given in Appendix IV.
J.D.
"F4ASK" a écrit dans le message de news:
Eh oui ! C'est comme les directives européennes qui doivent être transcrites en droit national et transformées en lois votées par l'Assemblée Nationale et le Sénat, publiées au J.O.R.F. et munies de
leur
décret d'application en bonne forme publié au J.O.R.F. de la même
façon.
Mais il semble que ceci doit être répété et rerépété.
La France est un état souverain et non un simple "province" de
l'Europe.
-- Gilbert Station amateur F4ASK LE HAVRE
Oh là mon ti gars, faut revoir tes connaissances en droit Européen ! C'est toi qui dit n'importe quoi.
"F4ASK" <f4ask@wanadoo.fr> a écrit dans le message de
news:XnF94217704C5C01GilbertF4ASK@193.252.19.141...
Eh oui ! C'est comme les directives européennes qui doivent être
transcrites en droit national et transformées en lois votées par
l'Assemblée Nationale et le Sénat, publiées au J.O.R.F. et munies de
leur
décret d'application en bonne forme publié au J.O.R.F. de la même
façon.
Mais il semble que ceci doit être répété et rerépété.
La France est un état souverain et non un simple "province" de
l'Europe.
--
Gilbert
Station amateur F4ASK
LE HAVRE
Oh là mon ti gars, faut revoir tes connaissances en droit Européen !
C'est toi qui dit n'importe quoi.
Eh oui ! C'est comme les directives européennes qui doivent être transcrites en droit national et transformées en lois votées par l'Assemblée Nationale et le Sénat, publiées au J.O.R.F. et munies de
leur
décret d'application en bonne forme publié au J.O.R.F. de la même
façon.
Mais il semble que ceci doit être répété et rerépété.
La France est un état souverain et non un simple "province" de
l'Europe.
-- Gilbert Station amateur F4ASK LE HAVRE
Oh là mon ti gars, faut revoir tes connaissances en droit Européen ! C'est toi qui dit n'importe quoi.
Thierry
"F4ASK" wrote in message news:
"F5MJV Vincent" a cru bon de raconter en ce si beau jour news:bnisbh$aqd$:
> Oui, ben c'est le texte dont tout le monde parle depuis des lustres... > Ce n'est pas son application en France...
Exact Vincent mais il en est qui ont la comprenette un peu difficile...
> > La seule chose à attendre c'est la décision officielle et sa > publication au journal officielle... tout le reste, c'est bidon ! ... > Ou du spam.
Eh oui ! C'est comme les directives européennes qui doivent être transcrites en droit national et transformées en lois votées par l'Assemblée Nationale et le Sénat, publiées au J.O.R.F. et munies de leur décret d'application en bonne forme publié au J.O.R.F. de la même façon.
Bonjour,
De toute façon,dans les pays où les VHFistes peuvent trafiquer en HF, il faut encore que la législation suivre (acceptation des amendements, arrêtés d'exécution, signatures, etc). En LX par exemple c'est bcp plus lent qu'en Belgique ou ailleurs, mais peut-être ne font-ils que qu'appliquer la loi... en la transgressant en accord avec l'UIT. Mais qlq soit le pays, avant que les arrêtés d'exécution soient passés, et que les amateurs puissent éventuellement changer d'indicatif par exemple (parfois c'est exclu) ou simplement demander un équivalent CEPT à l'étranger, il peut encore s'écouler 6 mois ou 1 an, administration oblige... Sans oublier le fait que certains pays conservent le morse. Et là j'attends de voir ce que dira l'équivalence CEPT si je veux émettre aux States... La patience est une vertu n'est-ce pas...
Mais il semble que ceci doit être répété et rerépété.
La France est un état souverain et non un simple "province" de l'Europe.
-- Gilbert Station amateur F4ASK LE HAVRE
"F4ASK" <f4ask@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
news:XnF94217704C5C01GilbertF4ASK@193.252.19.141...
"F5MJV Vincent" <F5MJV_nomail@wanadoo.fr> a cru bon de raconter en ce si
beau jour news:bnisbh$aqd$1@news-reader4.wanadoo.fr:
> Oui, ben c'est le texte dont tout le monde parle depuis des lustres...
> Ce n'est pas son application en France...
Exact Vincent mais il en est qui ont la comprenette un peu difficile...
>
> La seule chose à attendre c'est la décision officielle et sa
> publication au journal officielle... tout le reste, c'est bidon ! ...
> Ou du spam.
Eh oui ! C'est comme les directives européennes qui doivent être
transcrites en droit national et transformées en lois votées par
l'Assemblée Nationale et le Sénat, publiées au J.O.R.F. et munies de leur
décret d'application en bonne forme publié au J.O.R.F. de la même façon.
Bonjour,
De toute façon,dans les pays où les VHFistes peuvent trafiquer en HF, il
faut encore que la législation suivre (acceptation des amendements, arrêtés
d'exécution, signatures, etc). En LX par exemple c'est bcp plus lent qu'en
Belgique ou ailleurs, mais peut-être ne font-ils que qu'appliquer la loi...
en la transgressant en accord avec l'UIT.
Mais qlq soit le pays, avant que les arrêtés d'exécution soient passés, et
que les amateurs puissent éventuellement changer d'indicatif par exemple
(parfois c'est exclu) ou simplement demander un équivalent CEPT à
l'étranger, il peut encore s'écouler 6 mois ou 1 an, administration
oblige...
Sans oublier le fait que certains pays conservent le morse. Et là j'attends
de voir ce que dira l'équivalence CEPT si je veux émettre aux States...
La patience est une vertu n'est-ce pas...
"F5MJV Vincent" a cru bon de raconter en ce si beau jour news:bnisbh$aqd$:
> Oui, ben c'est le texte dont tout le monde parle depuis des lustres... > Ce n'est pas son application en France...
Exact Vincent mais il en est qui ont la comprenette un peu difficile...
> > La seule chose à attendre c'est la décision officielle et sa > publication au journal officielle... tout le reste, c'est bidon ! ... > Ou du spam.
Eh oui ! C'est comme les directives européennes qui doivent être transcrites en droit national et transformées en lois votées par l'Assemblée Nationale et le Sénat, publiées au J.O.R.F. et munies de leur décret d'application en bonne forme publié au J.O.R.F. de la même façon.
Bonjour,
De toute façon,dans les pays où les VHFistes peuvent trafiquer en HF, il faut encore que la législation suivre (acceptation des amendements, arrêtés d'exécution, signatures, etc). En LX par exemple c'est bcp plus lent qu'en Belgique ou ailleurs, mais peut-être ne font-ils que qu'appliquer la loi... en la transgressant en accord avec l'UIT. Mais qlq soit le pays, avant que les arrêtés d'exécution soient passés, et que les amateurs puissent éventuellement changer d'indicatif par exemple (parfois c'est exclu) ou simplement demander un équivalent CEPT à l'étranger, il peut encore s'écouler 6 mois ou 1 an, administration oblige... Sans oublier le fait que certains pays conservent le morse. Et là j'attends de voir ce que dira l'équivalence CEPT si je veux émettre aux States... La patience est une vertu n'est-ce pas...
Mais il semble que ceci doit être répété et rerépété.
La France est un état souverain et non un simple "province" de l'Europe.
-- Gilbert Station amateur F4ASK LE HAVRE
F4ASK
"J.D." a cru bon de raconter en ce si beau jour news:bniuk3$kpq$:
"F4ASK" a écrit dans le message de news:
Eh oui ! C'est comme les directives européennes qui doivent être transcrites en droit national et transformées en lois votées par l'Assemblée Nationale et le Sénat, publiées au J.O.R.F. et munies de
leur
décret d'application en bonne forme publié au J.O.R.F. de la même
façon.
Mais il semble que ceci doit être répété et rerépété.
La France est un état souverain et non un simple "province" de
l'Europe.
-- Gilbert Station amateur F4ASK LE HAVRE
Oh là mon ti gars, faut revoir tes connaissances en droit Européen ! C'est toi qui dit n'importe quoi.
Ah !?
C'est qu'on m'aurait menti ?
Pourtant les Directives concernant la protection de l'environnement doivent suivre ce circuit... ?!?!
C'est que les responsables "environnement" de mon entreprise (tu sais laquelle et ce n'est pas une PME) nous racontent des blagues en Commission SHE du CCE ?
2 poids, 2 mesures ???
Le Droit Européen et le Droit Français (ou d'un autre pays, d'ailleurs...) sont deux choses différentes.
L'Europe n'est pas un super état...
-- Gilbert Station amateur F4ASK LE HAVRE
"J.D." <f1bjj@f1bjj.org> a cru bon de raconter en ce si beau jour
news:bniuk3$kpq$1@news-reader4.wanadoo.fr:
"F4ASK" <f4ask@wanadoo.fr> a écrit dans le message de
news:XnF94217704C5C01GilbertF4ASK@193.252.19.141...
Eh oui ! C'est comme les directives européennes qui doivent être
transcrites en droit national et transformées en lois votées par
l'Assemblée Nationale et le Sénat, publiées au J.O.R.F. et munies de
leur
décret d'application en bonne forme publié au J.O.R.F. de la même
façon.
Mais il semble que ceci doit être répété et rerépété.
La France est un état souverain et non un simple "province" de
l'Europe.
--
Gilbert
Station amateur F4ASK
LE HAVRE
Oh là mon ti gars, faut revoir tes connaissances en droit Européen !
C'est toi qui dit n'importe quoi.
Ah !?
C'est qu'on m'aurait menti ?
Pourtant les Directives concernant la protection de l'environnement
doivent suivre ce circuit... ?!?!
C'est que les responsables "environnement" de mon entreprise (tu sais
laquelle et ce n'est pas une PME) nous racontent des blagues en
Commission SHE du CCE ?
2 poids, 2 mesures ???
Le Droit Européen et le Droit Français (ou d'un autre pays,
d'ailleurs...) sont deux choses différentes.
"J.D." a cru bon de raconter en ce si beau jour news:bniuk3$kpq$:
"F4ASK" a écrit dans le message de news:
Eh oui ! C'est comme les directives européennes qui doivent être transcrites en droit national et transformées en lois votées par l'Assemblée Nationale et le Sénat, publiées au J.O.R.F. et munies de
leur
décret d'application en bonne forme publié au J.O.R.F. de la même
façon.
Mais il semble que ceci doit être répété et rerépété.
La France est un état souverain et non un simple "province" de
l'Europe.
-- Gilbert Station amateur F4ASK LE HAVRE
Oh là mon ti gars, faut revoir tes connaissances en droit Européen ! C'est toi qui dit n'importe quoi.
Ah !?
C'est qu'on m'aurait menti ?
Pourtant les Directives concernant la protection de l'environnement doivent suivre ce circuit... ?!?!
C'est que les responsables "environnement" de mon entreprise (tu sais laquelle et ce n'est pas une PME) nous racontent des blagues en Commission SHE du CCE ?
2 poids, 2 mesures ???
Le Droit Européen et le Droit Français (ou d'un autre pays, d'ailleurs...) sont deux choses différentes.
L'Europe n'est pas un super état...
-- Gilbert Station amateur F4ASK LE HAVRE
J.D.
"F4ASK" a écrit dans le message de news:
Ah !?
C'est qu'on m'aurait menti ?
Pourtant les Directives concernant la protection de l'environnement doivent suivre ce circuit... ?!?!
C'est que les responsables "environnement" de mon entreprise (tu
sais
laquelle et ce n'est pas une PME) nous racontent des blagues en Commission SHE du CCE ?
2 poids, 2 mesures ???
Le Droit Européen et le Droit Français (ou d'un autre pays, d'ailleurs...) sont deux choses différentes.
L'Europe n'est pas un super état...
-- Gilbert Station amateur F4ASK LE HAVRE
Tu mélanges tout, ton usine est classée "cévéso II" et à ce titre doit répondre à des spécificités particulières où s'imbriquent directives Européennes et droit Français. Rien à voir avec ce dont on parle ici.
F1BJJ
"F4ASK" <nospamf4ask@wanadoo.fr> a écrit dans le message de
news:XnF94217F09322FCGilbertF4ASK@193.252.19.141...
Ah !?
C'est qu'on m'aurait menti ?
Pourtant les Directives concernant la protection de l'environnement
doivent suivre ce circuit... ?!?!
C'est que les responsables "environnement" de mon entreprise (tu
sais
laquelle et ce n'est pas une PME) nous racontent des blagues en
Commission SHE du CCE ?
2 poids, 2 mesures ???
Le Droit Européen et le Droit Français (ou d'un autre pays,
d'ailleurs...) sont deux choses différentes.
L'Europe n'est pas un super état...
--
Gilbert
Station amateur F4ASK
LE HAVRE
Tu mélanges tout, ton usine est classée "cévéso II" et à ce titre doit
répondre à des spécificités particulières où s'imbriquent directives
Européennes et droit Français. Rien à voir avec ce dont on parle ici.
Pourtant les Directives concernant la protection de l'environnement doivent suivre ce circuit... ?!?!
C'est que les responsables "environnement" de mon entreprise (tu
sais
laquelle et ce n'est pas une PME) nous racontent des blagues en Commission SHE du CCE ?
2 poids, 2 mesures ???
Le Droit Européen et le Droit Français (ou d'un autre pays, d'ailleurs...) sont deux choses différentes.
L'Europe n'est pas un super état...
-- Gilbert Station amateur F4ASK LE HAVRE
Tu mélanges tout, ton usine est classée "cévéso II" et à ce titre doit répondre à des spécificités particulières où s'imbriquent directives Européennes et droit Français. Rien à voir avec ce dont on parle ici.
F1BJJ
Centerfeed
T'as pas l'impression de livrer un combat d'arrière garde mon pauvre Jacquot ? Nous on s'en fout des F1 sur déca c'était il y à 20 ans qu'il fallais te remuer le cul, maitenant c'est trop tard et sans intérêt (voir le 6,6!!)
T'as pas l'impression de livrer un combat d'arrière garde mon pauvre Jacquot
?
Nous on s'en fout des F1 sur déca c'était il y à 20 ans qu'il fallais te
remuer le cul, maitenant c'est trop tard et sans intérêt (voir le 6,6!!)
T'as pas l'impression de livrer un combat d'arrière garde mon pauvre Jacquot ? Nous on s'en fout des F1 sur déca c'était il y à 20 ans qu'il fallais te remuer le cul, maitenant c'est trop tard et sans intérêt (voir le 6,6!!)
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T'as pas l'impression de livrer un combat d'arrière garde mon pauvre
Jacquot
? Nous on s'en fout des F1 sur déca c'était il y à 20 ans qu'il fallais te remuer le cul, maitenant c'est trop tard et sans intérêt (voir le 6,6!!)
Sorry j'avais lu dans le désordre !
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T'as pas l'impression de livrer un combat d'arrière garde mon pauvre
Jacquot
?
Nous on s'en fout des F1 sur déca c'était il y à 20 ans qu'il fallais te
remuer le cul, maitenant c'est trop tard et sans intérêt (voir le 6,6!!)
