Un renseignement svp....
Etant donne que je chope tout ce qui traine en ce moment en virus, je songe
à acheter un antivirus (oui j ai bien dit acheter) car je souhaite
telecharger regulierement les mises a jours. Y a t il une duree de validite
de la licence achetee pour ces telechargements ou est ce a vie?
2 eme question: Quel est le standard ? Norton...... ou autre
donc réinstaller un os (avec la licence sur la même machine) serait aussi juridiquement du piratage ?
On parlait de la mise à jour des signatures d'un antivirus. Au-delà du délai contractuel, c'est du piratage.
Salutations, -- Olivier Aichelbaum
Leroux
Olivier Aichelbaum a écrit dans le message :
proff611 wrote:
une solution, désinstaller TOUT norton, réinstaller et ça repart pour un an
Ca marche techniquement, mais juridiquement c'est assimilé à un piratage. a+ -- Olivier Aichelbaum
Bah, bah, bah ! Il faudra que vous m'expliquiez où, dans le texte ci-dessous (licence de l'utilisateur final à accepter pour l'installation de Norton Anti Virus) il est marqué qu'il est interdit de réinstaller la même copie du logiciel sur la même machine.
<CC>
NOTICE: Symantec licenses the accompanying software to you only upon the condition that you accept all of the terms contained in this license agreement. Please read the terms carefully before continuing installation, as pressing the "next" button will indicate your assent to them. If you do not agree to these terms, please press the "cancel" button to exit install as Symantec is unwilling to license the software to you, in which event you should return the full product with proof of purchase to the dealer from whom it was acquired within sixty days of purchase, and your money will be refunded.
LICENSE AND WARRANTY: The software which accompanies this license (the "Software") is the property of Symantec or its licensers and is protected by copyright law. While Symantec continues to own the Software, you will have certain rights to use the Software after your acceptance of this license. Except as may be modified by a license addendum which accompanies this license, your rights and obligations with respect to the use of this Software are as follows:
YOU MAY: (i) use one copy of the Software on a single computer;
(ii) make one copy of the Software for archival purposes, or copy the software onto the hard disk of your computer and retain the original for archival purposes;
(iii) use the Software on a network, provided that you have a licensed copy of the Software for each computer that can access the Software over that network;
(iv) after written notice to Symantec, transfer the Software on a permanent basis to another person or entity, provided that you retain no copies of the Software and the transferee agrees to the terms of this agreement; and
(v) if a single person uses the computer on which the Software is installed at least 80% of the time, then after returning the completed product registration card which accompanies the Software, that person may also use the Software on a single home computer.
YOU MAY NOT: (i) copy the documentation which accompanies the Software;
(ii) sublicense, rent or lease any portion of the Software;
(iii) reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble, modify, translate, make any attempt to discover the source code of the Software, or create derivative works from the Software; or
(iv) use a previous version or copy of the Software after you have received a disk replacement set or an upgraded version as a replacement of the prior version, unless you donate a previous version of an upgraded version to a charity of your choice, and such charity agrees in writing that it will be the sole end user of the product, and that it will abide by the terms of this agreement. Unless you so donate a previous version of an upgraded version, upon upgrading the Software, all copies of the prior version must be destroyed.
SIXTY DAY MONEY BACK GUARANTEE: If you are the original licensee of this copy of the Software and are dissatisfied with it for any reason, you may return the complete product, together with your receipt, to Symantec or an authorized dealer, postage prepaid, for a full refund at any time during the sixty day period following the delivery to you of the Software.
LIMITED WARRANTY: Symantec warrants that the media on which the Software is distributed will be free from defects for a period of sixty (60) days from the date of delivery of the Software to you. Your sole remedy in the event of a breach of this warranty will be that Symantec will, at its option, replace any defective media returned to Symantec within the warranty period or refund the money you paid for the Software. Symantec does not warrant that the Software will meet your requirements or that operation of the Software will be uninterrupted or that the Software will be error-free.
The above warranty is exclusive and in lieu of all other warranties, whether express or implied, including the implied warranties of merchantability, fitness for a particular purpose and noninfringement. This warranty gives you specific legal rights. You may have other rights, which vary from state to state.
DISCLAIMER OF DAMAGES: Regardless of whether any remedy set forth herein fails of its essential purpose, in no event will Symantec be liable to you for any special, consequential, indirect or similar damages, including any lost profits or lost data arising out of the use or inability to use the software even if Symantec has been advised of the possibility of such damages.
Some states do not allow the limitation or exclusion of liability for incidental or consequential damages so the above limitation or exclusion may not apply to you.
In no case shall Symantec's liability exceed the purchase price for the software. The disclaimers and limitations set forth above will apply regardless of whether you accept the Software.
U.S. GOVERNMENT RESTRICTED RIGHTS: Restricted rights legend. Use, duplication, or disclosure by the Government is subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph (c) (1) (ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and Computer Software clause at DFARS 252.227-7013 or subparagraphs (c) (1) and (2) of the Commercial Computer Software-Restricted Rights clause at 48 CFR 52.227-19, as applicable, Symantec Corporation, 10201 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, CA 95014.
GENERAL: This Agreement will be governed by the laws of the State of California. This Agreement may only be modified by a license addendum which accompanies this license or by a written document which has been signed by both you and Symantec. Should you have any questions concerning this Agreement, or if you desire to contact Symantec for any reason, please write: Symantec Customer Sales and Service, 10201 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, CA 95014.
</CC>
Olivier Aichelbaum <acbm@acbm.com> a écrit dans le message :
3F572FD7.605ECEFF@acbm.com...
proff611 wrote:
une solution, désinstaller TOUT norton, réinstaller et ça repart
pour un an
Ca marche techniquement, mais juridiquement c'est assimilé à un
piratage.
a+
--
Olivier Aichelbaum
Bah, bah, bah !
Il faudra que vous m'expliquiez où, dans le texte ci-dessous (licence de
l'utilisateur final à accepter pour l'installation de Norton Anti Virus)
il est marqué qu'il est interdit de réinstaller la même copie du
logiciel sur la même machine.
<CC>
NOTICE:
Symantec licenses the accompanying software to you only upon the
condition that you accept all of the terms contained in this license
agreement. Please read the terms carefully before continuing
installation, as pressing the "next" button will indicate your assent to
them. If you do not agree to these terms, please press the "cancel"
button to exit install as Symantec is unwilling to license the software
to you, in which event you should return the full product with proof of
purchase to the dealer from whom it was acquired within sixty days of
purchase, and your money will be refunded.
LICENSE AND WARRANTY:
The software which accompanies this license (the "Software") is the
property of Symantec or its licensers and is protected by copyright law.
While Symantec continues to own the Software, you will have certain
rights to use the Software after your acceptance of this license.
Except as may be modified by a license addendum which accompanies this
license, your rights and obligations with respect to the use of this
Software are as follows:
YOU MAY:
(i) use one copy of the Software on a single computer;
(ii) make one copy of the Software for archival purposes, or copy the
software onto the hard disk of your computer and retain the original for
archival purposes;
(iii) use the Software on a network, provided that you have a licensed
copy of the Software for each computer that can access the Software over
that network;
(iv) after written notice to Symantec, transfer the Software on a
permanent basis to another person or entity, provided that you retain no
copies of the Software and the transferee agrees to the terms of this
agreement; and
(v) if a single person uses the computer on which the Software is
installed at least 80% of the time, then after returning the completed
product registration card which accompanies the Software, that person
may also use the Software on a single home computer.
YOU MAY NOT:
(i) copy the documentation which accompanies the Software;
(ii) sublicense, rent or lease any portion of the Software;
(iii) reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble, modify, translate, make
any attempt to discover the source code of the Software, or create
derivative works from the Software; or
(iv) use a previous version or copy of the Software after you have
received a disk replacement set or an upgraded version as a replacement
of the prior version, unless you donate a previous version of an
upgraded version to a charity of your choice, and such charity agrees in
writing that it will be the sole end user of the product, and that it
will abide by the terms of this agreement. Unless you so donate a
previous version of an upgraded version, upon upgrading the Software,
all copies of the prior version must be destroyed.
SIXTY DAY MONEY BACK GUARANTEE:
If you are the original licensee of this copy of the Software and are
dissatisfied with it for any reason, you may return the complete
product, together with your receipt, to Symantec or an authorized
dealer, postage prepaid, for a full refund at any time during the sixty
day period following the delivery to you of the Software.
LIMITED WARRANTY:
Symantec warrants that the media on which the Software is distributed
will be free from defects for a period of sixty (60) days from the date
of delivery of the Software to you. Your sole remedy in the event of a
breach of this warranty will be that Symantec will, at its option,
replace any defective media returned to Symantec within the warranty
period or refund the money you paid for the Software. Symantec does not
warrant that the Software will meet your requirements or that operation
of the Software will be uninterrupted or that the Software will be
error-free.
The above warranty is exclusive and in lieu of all other warranties,
whether express or implied, including the implied warranties of
merchantability, fitness for a particular purpose and noninfringement.
This warranty gives you specific legal rights. You may have other
rights, which vary from state to state.
DISCLAIMER OF DAMAGES:
Regardless of whether any remedy set forth herein fails of its
essential purpose, in no event will Symantec be liable to you for any
special, consequential, indirect or similar damages, including any lost
profits or lost data arising out of the use or inability to use the
software even if Symantec has been advised of the possibility of such
damages.
Some states do not allow the limitation or exclusion of liability for
incidental or consequential damages so the above limitation or exclusion
may not apply to you.
In no case shall Symantec's liability exceed the purchase price for the
software. The disclaimers and limitations set forth above will apply
regardless of whether you accept the Software.
U.S. GOVERNMENT RESTRICTED RIGHTS:
Restricted rights legend. Use, duplication, or disclosure by the
Government is subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph (c)
(1) (ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and Computer Software clause at
DFARS 252.227-7013 or subparagraphs (c) (1) and (2) of the Commercial
Computer Software-Restricted Rights clause at 48 CFR 52.227-19, as
applicable, Symantec Corporation, 10201 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, CA
95014.
GENERAL:
This Agreement will be governed by the laws of the State of California.
This Agreement may only be modified by a license addendum which
accompanies this license or by a written document which has been signed
by both you and Symantec. Should you have any questions concerning this
Agreement, or if you desire to contact Symantec for any reason, please
write: Symantec Customer Sales and Service, 10201 Torre Avenue,
Cupertino, CA 95014.
une solution, désinstaller TOUT norton, réinstaller et ça repart pour un an
Ca marche techniquement, mais juridiquement c'est assimilé à un piratage. a+ -- Olivier Aichelbaum
Bah, bah, bah ! Il faudra que vous m'expliquiez où, dans le texte ci-dessous (licence de l'utilisateur final à accepter pour l'installation de Norton Anti Virus) il est marqué qu'il est interdit de réinstaller la même copie du logiciel sur la même machine.
<CC>
NOTICE: Symantec licenses the accompanying software to you only upon the condition that you accept all of the terms contained in this license agreement. Please read the terms carefully before continuing installation, as pressing the "next" button will indicate your assent to them. If you do not agree to these terms, please press the "cancel" button to exit install as Symantec is unwilling to license the software to you, in which event you should return the full product with proof of purchase to the dealer from whom it was acquired within sixty days of purchase, and your money will be refunded.
LICENSE AND WARRANTY: The software which accompanies this license (the "Software") is the property of Symantec or its licensers and is protected by copyright law. While Symantec continues to own the Software, you will have certain rights to use the Software after your acceptance of this license. Except as may be modified by a license addendum which accompanies this license, your rights and obligations with respect to the use of this Software are as follows:
YOU MAY: (i) use one copy of the Software on a single computer;
(ii) make one copy of the Software for archival purposes, or copy the software onto the hard disk of your computer and retain the original for archival purposes;
(iii) use the Software on a network, provided that you have a licensed copy of the Software for each computer that can access the Software over that network;
(iv) after written notice to Symantec, transfer the Software on a permanent basis to another person or entity, provided that you retain no copies of the Software and the transferee agrees to the terms of this agreement; and
(v) if a single person uses the computer on which the Software is installed at least 80% of the time, then after returning the completed product registration card which accompanies the Software, that person may also use the Software on a single home computer.
YOU MAY NOT: (i) copy the documentation which accompanies the Software;
(ii) sublicense, rent or lease any portion of the Software;
(iii) reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble, modify, translate, make any attempt to discover the source code of the Software, or create derivative works from the Software; or
(iv) use a previous version or copy of the Software after you have received a disk replacement set or an upgraded version as a replacement of the prior version, unless you donate a previous version of an upgraded version to a charity of your choice, and such charity agrees in writing that it will be the sole end user of the product, and that it will abide by the terms of this agreement. Unless you so donate a previous version of an upgraded version, upon upgrading the Software, all copies of the prior version must be destroyed.
SIXTY DAY MONEY BACK GUARANTEE: If you are the original licensee of this copy of the Software and are dissatisfied with it for any reason, you may return the complete product, together with your receipt, to Symantec or an authorized dealer, postage prepaid, for a full refund at any time during the sixty day period following the delivery to you of the Software.
LIMITED WARRANTY: Symantec warrants that the media on which the Software is distributed will be free from defects for a period of sixty (60) days from the date of delivery of the Software to you. Your sole remedy in the event of a breach of this warranty will be that Symantec will, at its option, replace any defective media returned to Symantec within the warranty period or refund the money you paid for the Software. Symantec does not warrant that the Software will meet your requirements or that operation of the Software will be uninterrupted or that the Software will be error-free.
The above warranty is exclusive and in lieu of all other warranties, whether express or implied, including the implied warranties of merchantability, fitness for a particular purpose and noninfringement. This warranty gives you specific legal rights. You may have other rights, which vary from state to state.
DISCLAIMER OF DAMAGES: Regardless of whether any remedy set forth herein fails of its essential purpose, in no event will Symantec be liable to you for any special, consequential, indirect or similar damages, including any lost profits or lost data arising out of the use or inability to use the software even if Symantec has been advised of the possibility of such damages.
Some states do not allow the limitation or exclusion of liability for incidental or consequential damages so the above limitation or exclusion may not apply to you.
In no case shall Symantec's liability exceed the purchase price for the software. The disclaimers and limitations set forth above will apply regardless of whether you accept the Software.
U.S. GOVERNMENT RESTRICTED RIGHTS: Restricted rights legend. Use, duplication, or disclosure by the Government is subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph (c) (1) (ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and Computer Software clause at DFARS 252.227-7013 or subparagraphs (c) (1) and (2) of the Commercial Computer Software-Restricted Rights clause at 48 CFR 52.227-19, as applicable, Symantec Corporation, 10201 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, CA 95014.
GENERAL: This Agreement will be governed by the laws of the State of California. This Agreement may only be modified by a license addendum which accompanies this license or by a written document which has been signed by both you and Symantec. Should you have any questions concerning this Agreement, or if you desire to contact Symantec for any reason, please write: Symantec Customer Sales and Service, 10201 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, CA 95014.
</CC>
Olivier Aichelbaum
Leroux wrote:
Ca marche techniquement, mais juridiquement c'est assimilé à un piratage.
Bah, bah, bah ! Il faudra que vous m'expliquiez où, dans le texte ci-dessous (licence de l'utilisateur final à accepter pour l'installation de Norton Anti Virus) il est marqué qu'il est interdit de réinstaller la même copie du logiciel sur la même machine.
On parlait *au-dela de la duree* de l'abonnement aux signatures.
Cordialement, -- Olivier Aichelbaum
Leroux wrote:
Ca marche techniquement, mais juridiquement c'est assimilé à un
piratage.
Bah, bah, bah !
Il faudra que vous m'expliquiez où, dans le texte ci-dessous (licence de
l'utilisateur final à accepter pour l'installation de Norton Anti Virus)
il est marqué qu'il est interdit de réinstaller la même copie du
logiciel sur la même machine.
On parlait *au-dela de la duree* de l'abonnement aux signatures.
Ca marche techniquement, mais juridiquement c'est assimilé à un piratage.
Bah, bah, bah ! Il faudra que vous m'expliquiez où, dans le texte ci-dessous (licence de l'utilisateur final à accepter pour l'installation de Norton Anti Virus) il est marqué qu'il est interdit de réinstaller la même copie du logiciel sur la même machine.
On parlait *au-dela de la duree* de l'abonnement aux signatures.
Cordialement, -- Olivier Aichelbaum
Olivier Aichelbaum
Leroux wrote:
On parlait *au-dela de la duree* de l'abonnement aux signatures.
Non, proff611 parlait de, je cite : "une solution, désinstaller TOUT norton, réinstaller et ça repart pour un an".
Oui, je maintiens : Légalement, on a le droit d'utiliser la licence un an. Si on réinstalle tout et que le compteur a été trompé, on doit respecter la date anniversaire quand même. Et ceci est valable pour tous les logiciels de ce type. Je vous dit ce qu'il en est sur la plan légal, maintenant vous en faites ce que vous voulez...
Cordialement, -- Olivier Aichelbaum
Leroux wrote:
On parlait *au-dela de la duree* de l'abonnement aux signatures.
Non, proff611 parlait de, je cite :
"une solution, désinstaller TOUT norton, réinstaller et ça repart pour
un an".
Oui, je maintiens :
Légalement, on a le droit d'utiliser la licence un an. Si on réinstalle
tout et que le compteur a été trompé, on doit respecter la date
anniversaire quand même. Et ceci est valable pour tous les logiciels de
ce type. Je vous dit ce qu'il en est sur la plan légal, maintenant vous
en faites ce que vous voulez...
On parlait *au-dela de la duree* de l'abonnement aux signatures.
Non, proff611 parlait de, je cite : "une solution, désinstaller TOUT norton, réinstaller et ça repart pour un an".
Oui, je maintiens : Légalement, on a le droit d'utiliser la licence un an. Si on réinstalle tout et que le compteur a été trompé, on doit respecter la date anniversaire quand même. Et ceci est valable pour tous les logiciels de ce type. Je vous dit ce qu'il en est sur la plan légal, maintenant vous en faites ce que vous voulez...
Cordialement, -- Olivier Aichelbaum
Jean-Yves Cènes
"Mister Jack" avait écrit le 07/09/03 :
"Chambord" a écrit dans le message de news:
Avant de penser antivirus pour t'en proteger tu mets à jour ton IE/OE qui est une passoire. et tu cliques pas sur les fichiers joints .Et bien sur l'OS à jour.
Plein de bon sens... Mais faut pas se limiter à IE, OE et Windows (implicitement cité). Faut faire ça pour tous les logiciels !!!
Moi je te conseille Norton dernière version
Bon, ben moi je te conseille en priorité F-Secure ou Kaspersky, voire E-scan Pro ou McAfee. Je déconseillerai PC-Cillin, Norton 2003 Pro, Sophos, Panda... Et les antivirus gratuits sont globalement très mauvais...
PC-Cillin brille surtout par son incapacité à nettoyer :-[ les fichiers
vérolés qu'il à mis en quarantaine.
ou mieux Norton Internet Sécurité qui intègre un Pare-Feu qui semble à ce jour indispensable en ADSL
Indispensable pour l'ADSL, je vois pas trop ce qui change du RTC... sauf pour ceux qui ont une IP fixe...
C'est vrai qu'il faut un antivirus qui nous convienne, mais ça sert à rien d'installer quelquechose de mauvais même si on l'utilise plus facilement... Un petit apprentissage n'est pas insurmontable.
-- J-Yves
"Mister Jack" avait écrit le 07/09/03 :
"Chambord" <azertyl@azertyl.fr> a écrit dans le message de
news:3F561C62.DB753BBD@azertyl.fr...
Avant de penser antivirus pour t'en proteger tu mets à jour ton IE/OE
qui est une passoire.
et tu cliques pas sur les fichiers joints .Et bien sur l'OS à jour.
Plein de bon sens... Mais faut pas se limiter à IE, OE et Windows
(implicitement cité). Faut faire ça pour tous les logiciels !!!
Moi je te conseille Norton dernière version
Bon, ben moi je te conseille en priorité F-Secure ou Kaspersky, voire E-scan
Pro ou McAfee.
Je déconseillerai PC-Cillin, Norton 2003 Pro, Sophos, Panda...
Et les antivirus gratuits sont globalement très mauvais...
PC-Cillin brille surtout par son incapacité à nettoyer :-[ les fichiers
vérolés qu'il à mis en quarantaine.
ou mieux Norton Internet
Sécurité qui intègre un Pare-Feu qui semble à ce jour indispensable en
ADSL
Indispensable pour l'ADSL, je vois pas trop ce qui change du RTC... sauf
pour ceux qui ont une IP fixe...
C'est vrai qu'il faut un antivirus qui nous convienne, mais ça sert à rien
d'installer quelquechose de mauvais même si on l'utilise plus facilement...
Un petit apprentissage n'est pas insurmontable.
Avant de penser antivirus pour t'en proteger tu mets à jour ton IE/OE qui est une passoire. et tu cliques pas sur les fichiers joints .Et bien sur l'OS à jour.
Plein de bon sens... Mais faut pas se limiter à IE, OE et Windows (implicitement cité). Faut faire ça pour tous les logiciels !!!
Moi je te conseille Norton dernière version
Bon, ben moi je te conseille en priorité F-Secure ou Kaspersky, voire E-scan Pro ou McAfee. Je déconseillerai PC-Cillin, Norton 2003 Pro, Sophos, Panda... Et les antivirus gratuits sont globalement très mauvais...
PC-Cillin brille surtout par son incapacité à nettoyer :-[ les fichiers
vérolés qu'il à mis en quarantaine.
ou mieux Norton Internet Sécurité qui intègre un Pare-Feu qui semble à ce jour indispensable en ADSL
Indispensable pour l'ADSL, je vois pas trop ce qui change du RTC... sauf pour ceux qui ont une IP fixe...
C'est vrai qu'il faut un antivirus qui nous convienne, mais ça sert à rien d'installer quelquechose de mauvais même si on l'utilise plus facilement... Un petit apprentissage n'est pas insurmontable.
