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Free attaque encore un internaute, la liberté d'expression attaquée !

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k.m.f.3.1
Free à nouveau devant la 17e chambre correctionnelle du TGI de Paris. Une
affaire est actuellement examinée par les juges de cette chambre spécialisée
dans les délits de presse, en l'occurrence ici un cas de diffamation.

Dans un post datant de février 2006 et signé Petit poucet, sous l'actualité
d'un confrère, 01Net, le FAI était qualifié de « premier pirate de France ».
De fait, ce message, qui avait passé le cap de la modération, met en cause l
'attitude supposée de Free au regard des newsgroups binaires auxquels ont
accès ses abonnés : sur ces NG, comme on le sait, quantité de données
(image, vidéo, programme, etc.) prospèrent, parfois de manière illicite.


la suite :

http://www.pcinpact.com/actu/news/41247-free-diffamation-newsgroups-LCEN-Albanel.htm


Il est évident que free et consorts ne peuvent surveiller les dizaines ou
centaines de milliers de posts ou de commentaires laissés sur les
newsgroups, forums, sites divers etc etc. cela veut donc dire dire que des
pourritures d'internautes sont spécialisés dans la surveillance et la
délation.
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Albert ARIBAUD
unable to concur in the suggestion
made in your despatch as to the advisability of prosecuting Inspector
Lee." He implies that in his opinion "Inspector Lee was acting
strictly within his powers on this unfortunate occasion." "It is
quite possible," Lord Carnarvon continues, "that there may be abuses
connected with the Contagious Diseases Ordinance which ought to
be removed; but I would point out that such abuses arise from the
imperfections in the system as established by law.... While ready
to give consideration to the subject of amending the system, if
necessary, I fail at present to observe wherein the officers ... have
exceeded the duty imposed upon them by law."

From such responses as these we readily learn that it was not alone in
Hong Kong that these outrageous abuses of every principle of justice
in dealing with Chinese women failed to arouse more than a lukewarm
interest in their behalf, and all the way through Sir John Pope
Hennessy, with one or two notable exceptions, so far as the records
go, was shown but scant sympathy in his efforts to correct these
abuses.

On April 2nd, 1878, Sir Harcourt Johnstone asked in the House of
Commons the Secretary of State for the Colonies, "whether his
attention has been directed to a recent outrage committed ... at Hong
Kong, which is now forming the subject of inquiry by a Commission
appointed by the Governor. And if he will cause special investigation
to be made as to the manner in which the revenue derived from
licensing houses of ill-fame is raised and expended for the service of
the Colony."

In answer to this question, the Commission reported that, "the monies
raised both by the licenses from houses of ill-fame, and from the
fines infli
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Albert ARIBAUD
unable to concur in the suggestion
made in your despatch as to the advisability of prosecuting Inspector
Lee." He implies that in his opinion "Inspector Lee was acting
strictly within his powers on this unfortunate occasion." "It is
quite possible," Lord Carnarvon continues, "that there may be abuses
connected with the Contagious Diseases Ordinance which ought to
be removed; but I would point out that such abuses arise from the
imperfections in the system as established by law.... While ready
to give consideration to the subject of amending the system, if
necessary, I fail at present to observe wherein the officers ... have
exceeded the duty imposed upon them by law."

From such responses as these we readily learn that it was not alone in
Hong Kong that these outrageous abuses of every principle of justice
in dealing with Chinese women failed to arouse more than a lukewarm
interest in their behalf, and all the way through Sir John Pope
Hennessy, with one or two notable exceptions, so far as the records
go, was shown but scant sympathy in his efforts to correct these
abuses.

On April 2nd, 1878, Sir Harcourt Johnstone asked in the House of
Commons the Secretary of State for the Colonies, "whether his
attention has been directed to a recent outrage committed ... at Hong
Kong, which is now forming the subject of inquiry by a Commission
appointed by the Governor. And if he will cause special investigation
to be made as to the manner in which the revenue derived from
licensing houses of ill-fame is raised and expended for the service of
the Colony."

In answer to this question, the Commission reported that, "the monies
raised both by the licenses from houses of ill-fame, and from the
fines infli
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Sylvain POURRE
fell on deaf ears. "I am a married woman, my husband
can take care of me. I do not need your protection!" was the
rather indignant response. So we presented some bright flowers as
a token of good will and friendship, and with them slipped into
the small, soft hand a talisman that might help her out of future
trouble. Just a slip of paper, but the magic of the name and
number written there many an escaped slave girl can bear witness
to. Some weeks passed by after our visit to Kum Ping on the
steamer. She had landed, and, like hundreds of others, had simply
disappeared from view in that place of many mysteries, old
Chinatown. One night perhaps a month later, I was called to the
reception room to see a strange visitor (Chinese) who refused to
divulge either name or business to any one else. On meeting this
messenger I noticed his great excitement and nervousness. Only
after the door was tightly shut did he tell his errand. We
listened with interest to his story of a young girl sold to a very
cruel master, who beat her daily and never allowed her to leave
the place in which she was closely guarded. Unless relief came
soon she must end her life. Would the Mission try to save this
poor girl? We gladly promised what help we could give, and our
visitor left as qui
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Sylvain POURRE
fell on deaf ears. "I am a married woman, my husband
can take care of me. I do not need your protection!" was the
rather indignant response. So we presented some bright flowers as
a token of good will and friendship, and with them slipped into
the small, soft hand a talisman that might help her out of future
trouble. Just a slip of paper, but the magic of the name and
number written there many an escaped slave girl can bear witness
to. Some weeks passed by after our visit to Kum Ping on the
steamer. She had landed, and, like hundreds of others, had simply
disappeared from view in that place of many mysteries, old
Chinatown. One night perhaps a month later, I was called to the
reception room to see a strange visitor (Chinese) who refused to
divulge either name or business to any one else. On meeting this
messenger I noticed his great excitement and nervousness. Only
after the door was tightly shut did he tell his errand. We
listened with interest to his story of a young girl sold to a very
cruel master, who beat her daily and never allowed her to leave
the place in which she was closely guarded. Unless relief came
soon she must end her life. Would the Mission try to save this
poor girl? We gladly promised what help we could give, and our
visitor left as qui
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Martin Lafaix
would seem in later years, by renting them for
a monthly stipend.]

The Governor, in a letter to the Colonial Secretary at London about
this time, informs the Colonial Secretary of his own failure also to
induce the Attorney General to prosecute cases to which His Excellency
had called his attention, and furthermore he explains that other
of his principal executive officers held to the same views as the
Attorney General.




CHAPTER 9.

THE CHINESE PETITION AND PROTEST.


We get additional and valuable light on social conditions at Hong
Kong, through statements drawn up by prominent Chinese men and laid
before the Governor. As a representation from the Chinese standpoint
it has peculiar value at all points excepting where self-interest
might afford a motive for coloring the truth.

The occasion of these statements was as follows: On November 9, 1878,
a month before the report of the Commission was published, certain
Chinese merchants had petitioned the Governor to be allowed to form
themselves into a society for suppressing kidnaping and trafficking
in human beings. This petition states that the worst kidnapers are
"go-betweens and old women who have houses for the detention of
kidnaped people." They declare that these

"inveigle virtuous women or girls t
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me
and self-respect in a Christian country; they have
a clean, decent religion; women who worship the true God have His
protecting arm to defend themselves, and through them other women
who do not personally worship God share in the benefits. If free,
independent women of God were as scarce in America as in Hong Kong the
same moral conditions would prevail here, without regard to climate,
for, _if women could be bought and sold and reduced by force to
prostitution, there are libertines enough, and they have propensities
strong enough to enter at once upon the business, even in America_.
That which has elevated women above this slave condition is the
development of a self-respect and dignity born of the Christian faith.
But let us take warning. If the women of America have not the decent
self-respect to refuse to tolerate the Oriental slave-prostitute in
this country, the balance will be lost, libertines will have their own
way through the introduction into our social fabric of their slaves,
and Christian womanhood will fall before it. "Ye have not proclaimed
liberty every one to his fellow, therefore I proclaim liberty to you,
saith the Lord, to the sword, and the famine, and the pesti
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me
and self-respect in a Christian country; they have
a clean, decent religion; women who worship the true God have His
protecting arm to defend themselves, and through them other women
who do not personally worship God share in the benefits. If free,
independent women of God were as scarce in America as in Hong Kong the
same moral conditions would prevail here, without regard to climate,
for, _if women could be bought and sold and reduced by force to
prostitution, there are libertines enough, and they have propensities
strong enough to enter at once upon the business, even in America_.
That which has elevated women above this slave condition is the
development of a self-respect and dignity born of the Christian faith.
But let us take warning. If the women of America have not the decent
self-respect to refuse to tolerate the Oriental slave-prostitute in
this country, the balance will be lost, libertines will have their own
way through the introduction into our social fabric of their slaves,
and Christian womanhood will fall before it. "Ye have not proclaimed
liberty every one to his fellow, therefore I proclaim liberty to you,
saith the Lord, to the sword, and the famine, and the pesti
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oulala
"oulala" a écrit dans le message de
news:00e462af$0$362$

"Vince" a écrit dans le message de
news:
Jules a écrit:
Jules a écrit:
Le fai, ici en l'occurence free, est le seul à donner accès à des
newsgroups binaires,


Bien sûr que non. Orange le fait aussi...

il sait parfaitement ce qui s'y passe


Non.

, nul besoin
de lire chaque post les entêtes suffisent lol de même les récentes
décisions de justice ont bien montré ce fait.


Lire plusieurs millions d'en-tête par jour n'est pas acceptable.


Comment savez-vous qu'il ne lit que ce newsgroup, vous êtes un
proche,





un affidé, un employé, un nervis B-)


Bah non, il poste ici. Donc à moins qu'il poste sans lire...

Lui et tous ses employés savent très bien ce qui s'y passent.


Ceci n'engage que vous...




1) Orange ne donne pas accès aux contenus des groupes binaires, j'y
suis et pour avoir accès également à free , la comparaison est
irrecevable.


Apparemment vous n'avez pas compris que j'avais vérifié :

Newsgroups: alt.binaries.fr.humour
X-Trace: 1200569604 news.orange.fr 885 XX.XX.XX.XX:1837

Après que le serveur de Free soit de meilleur qualité que celui d'Orange
c'est

un autre problème...

3) il n'est nul besoin de lire plusieurs millions d'en-tête, on croit
réver, il suffit par exemple de sélectionner les groupes en .fr ou en
..french et vous le savez très bien en quelque minutes vous voyez ce
que



vous voulez voir lol


Ah bon. Et à votre avis avec l'en-tête partiel ci-dessus, il faut fermer
le

newsgroup ?


--
Vince



Path:

news.free.fr!spooler5a-2.proxad.net!cleanfeed4-a.proxad.net!nnrp19-2.free.fr

!not-for-mail

From: (Yenc-PP-A&A-FR)

Sender:

Newsgroups: alt.binaries.cd.image.french

Subject: Winamp Pro 5.52 Multilangage.rar (1/1)

X-Newsposter: YENC-POWER-POST-A&A-v11b-FR (Modified POWER-POST
www.CosmicWolf.com)

Date: 18 Jan 2008 20:33:43 GMT

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X-Trace: 1200688423 news-3.free.fr 32467 88.***.***.***:1794

X-Complaints-To:

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Alors il n'y a pas de fichiers binaires sur les serveurs proxad

J'attends ta réponse




j'attends encore :)






Avatar
oulala
"oulala" a écrit dans le message de
news:01ec1aa2$0$5560$

"oulala" a écrit dans le message de
news:00e462af$0$362$

"Vince" a écrit dans le message de
news:
Jules a écrit:
Jules a écrit:
Le fai, ici en l'occurence free, est le seul à donner accès à des
newsgroups binaires,


Bien sûr que non. Orange le fait aussi...

il sait parfaitement ce qui s'y passe


Non.

, nul besoin
de lire chaque post les entêtes suffisent lol de même les récentes
décisions de justice ont bien montré ce fait.


Lire plusieurs millions d'en-tête par jour n'est pas acceptable.


Comment savez-vous qu'il ne lit que ce newsgroup, vous êtes un
proche,





un affidé, un employé, un nervis B-)


Bah non, il poste ici. Donc à moins qu'il poste sans lire...

Lui et tous ses employés savent très bien ce qui s'y passent.


Ceci n'engage que vous...




1) Orange ne donne pas accès aux contenus des groupes binaires, j'y
suis et pour avoir accès également à free , la comparaison est
irrecevable.


Apparemment vous n'avez pas compris que j'avais vérifié :

Newsgroups: alt.binaries.fr.humour
X-Trace: 1200569604 news.orange.fr 885 XX.XX.XX.XX:1837

Après que le serveur de Free soit de meilleur qualité que celui
d'Orange



c'est
un autre problème...

3) il n'est nul besoin de lire plusieurs millions d'en-tête, on
croit




réver, il suffit par exemple de sélectionner les groupes en .fr ou
en




..french et vous le savez très bien en quelque minutes vous voyez ce
que



vous voulez voir lol


Ah bon. Et à votre avis avec l'en-tête partiel ci-dessus, il faut
fermer



le
newsgroup ?


--
Vince



Path:



news.free.fr!spooler5a-2.proxad.net!cleanfeed4-a.proxad.net!nnrp19-2.free.fr

!not-for-mail

From: (Yenc-PP-A&A-FR)

Sender:

Newsgroups: alt.binaries.cd.image.french

Subject: Winamp Pro 5.52 Multilangage.rar (1/1)

X-Newsposter: YENC-POWER-POST-A&A-v11b-FR (Modified POWER-POST
www.CosmicWolf.com)

Date: 18 Jan 2008 20:33:43 GMT

Lines: 13

Message-ID: <47910d27$0$32467$

Organization: Guest of ProXad - France

NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Jan 2008 21:33:43 MET

NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.165.***.***

X-Trace: 1200688423 news-3.free.fr 32467 88.***.***.***:1794

X-Complaints-To:

Xref: news.free.fr alt.binaries.cd.image.french:13469951



Alors il n'y a pas de fichiers binaires sur les serveurs proxad

J'attends ta réponse




j'attends encore :)






alors faux-derche toujours pas de réponse






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