(1) Par curiosité télécom, j'aimerais observer une trace PPPoE par
Ethereal. Quelqu'un parmi vous a-t-il ce protocole activé avec son
fournisseur d'accès et pourrait produire une telle trace ?
(2) Au dessus de MAC, dans le cas PPPoE, la pile se poursuit par IP >
PPP > PPPoE. Comme PPPoE déclenche un mécanisme de découverte de
l'adresse Ethernet de la machine distante, pourrait-on avoir des
datagrammes ARP à la place des datagrammes IP. Cela semble
contradictoire, mais parfois on est surpris !
Merci pour vos avis
Cordialement,
Michelot ou Angelot
mhostettler at wanadoo point fr
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TiChou
Dans le message <news:, *Michelot* tapota sur f.c.r.ip :
Bonjour,
Bonsoir,
(1) Par curiosité télécom, j'aimerais observer une trace PPPoE par Ethereal. Quelqu'un parmi vous a-t-il ce protocole activé avec son fournisseur d'accès et pourrait produire une telle trace ?
(2) Au dessus de MAC, dans le cas PPPoE, la pile se poursuit par IP > PPP > PPPoE. Comme PPPoE déclenche un mécanisme de découverte de l'adresse Ethernet de la machine distante, pourrait-on avoir des datagrammes ARP à la place des datagrammes IP. Cela semble contradictoire, mais parfois on est surpris !
Pour une bonne compréhension du protocole PPPoE avec des captures pour bien illustrer les différentes couches de chaque protocole, je vous recommande la lecture de l'excellent site de Christian Caleca et de son article sur le sujet :
http://christian.caleca.free.fr/pppoe/
Merci pour vos avis
Pas de quoi.
-- TiChou
Dans le message <news:1c1de54c.0412200205.d36a32e@posting.google.com>,
*Michelot* tapota sur f.c.r.ip :
Bonjour,
Bonsoir,
(1) Par curiosité télécom, j'aimerais observer une trace PPPoE par
Ethereal. Quelqu'un parmi vous a-t-il ce protocole activé avec son
fournisseur d'accès et pourrait produire une telle trace ?
(2) Au dessus de MAC, dans le cas PPPoE, la pile se poursuit par IP >
PPP > PPPoE. Comme PPPoE déclenche un mécanisme de découverte de
l'adresse Ethernet de la machine distante, pourrait-on avoir des
datagrammes ARP à la place des datagrammes IP. Cela semble
contradictoire, mais parfois on est surpris !
Pour une bonne compréhension du protocole PPPoE avec des captures pour bien
illustrer les différentes couches de chaque protocole, je vous recommande la
lecture de l'excellent site de Christian Caleca et de son article sur le
sujet :
Dans le message <news:, *Michelot* tapota sur f.c.r.ip :
Bonjour,
Bonsoir,
(1) Par curiosité télécom, j'aimerais observer une trace PPPoE par Ethereal. Quelqu'un parmi vous a-t-il ce protocole activé avec son fournisseur d'accès et pourrait produire une telle trace ?
(2) Au dessus de MAC, dans le cas PPPoE, la pile se poursuit par IP > PPP > PPPoE. Comme PPPoE déclenche un mécanisme de découverte de l'adresse Ethernet de la machine distante, pourrait-on avoir des datagrammes ARP à la place des datagrammes IP. Cela semble contradictoire, mais parfois on est surpris !
Pour une bonne compréhension du protocole PPPoE avec des captures pour bien illustrer les différentes couches de chaque protocole, je vous recommande la lecture de l'excellent site de Christian Caleca et de son article sur le sujet :
http://christian.caleca.free.fr/pppoe/
Merci pour vos avis
Pas de quoi.
-- TiChou
me
(buy steak or roast, do not pre-boil).
Pie crust (see index) Whole fresh pre-mie; eviscerated, head, hands and feet removed Onions, bell pepper, celery ½ cup wine Root vegetables of choice (turnips, carrots, potatoes, etc) cubed
Make a crust from scratch - or go shamefully to the frozen food section of your favorite grocery and select 2 high quality pie crusts (you will need one for the top also). Boil the prepared delicacy until the meat starts to come off the bones. Remove, de-bone and cube; continue to reduce the broth. Brown the onions, peppers and celery. Add the meat then season, continue browning. De-glaze with sherry, add the reduced broth. Finally, put in the root vegetables and simmer for 15 minutes. Allow to cool slightly. Place the pie pan in 375 degree oven for a few minutes so bottom crust is not soggy, reduce oven to 325. Fill the pie with stew, place top crust and with a fork, seal the crusts together then poke holes in top. Return to oven and ba
(buy steak or roast, do not pre-boil).
Pie crust (see index)
Whole fresh pre-mie; eviscerated, head, hands and feet removed
Onions, bell pepper, celery
½ cup wine
Root vegetables of choice (turnips, carrots, potatoes, etc) cubed
Make a crust from scratch - or go shamefully to the frozen food section
of your favorite grocery and select 2 high quality pie crusts (you
will need one for the top also).
Boil the prepared delicacy until the meat starts to come off the bones.
Remove, de-bone and cube; continue to reduce the broth.
Brown the onions, peppers and celery.
Add the meat then season, continue browning.
De-glaze with sherry, add the reduced broth.
Finally, put in the root vegetables and simmer for 15 minutes.
Allow to cool slightly.
Place the pie pan in 375 degree oven for a few minutes so bottom crust is not soggy,
reduce oven to 325.
Fill the pie with stew, place top crust and with a fork, seal the crusts together
then poke holes in top.
Return to oven and ba
Pie crust (see index) Whole fresh pre-mie; eviscerated, head, hands and feet removed Onions, bell pepper, celery ½ cup wine Root vegetables of choice (turnips, carrots, potatoes, etc) cubed
Make a crust from scratch - or go shamefully to the frozen food section of your favorite grocery and select 2 high quality pie crusts (you will need one for the top also). Boil the prepared delicacy until the meat starts to come off the bones. Remove, de-bone and cube; continue to reduce the broth. Brown the onions, peppers and celery. Add the meat then season, continue browning. De-glaze with sherry, add the reduced broth. Finally, put in the root vegetables and simmer for 15 minutes. Allow to cool slightly. Place the pie pan in 375 degree oven for a few minutes so bottom crust is not soggy, reduce oven to 325. Fill the pie with stew, place top crust and with a fork, seal the crusts together then poke holes in top. Return to oven and ba
mhostettler
Place 1 quart water in a baking pan, the meat on a wire rack. Bake uncovered in 250° oven for 1½ hours. When browned, remove and glaze, return to oven and bake 20 minutes more to form a glaze. Cut ribs into individual pieces and serve with extra sauce.
Fresh Sausage
If it becomes necessary to hide the fact that you are eating human babies, this is the perfect solution. But if you are still paranoid, you can substitute pork butt.
5 lb. lean chuck roast 3 lb. prime baby butt 2 tablespoons each: salt black, white and cayenne peppers celery salt garlic powder parsley flakes brown sugar 1 teaspoon sage 2 onions 6 cloves garlic bunch green onions, chopped
Cut the children?s butts and the beef roast into pieces that will fit in the grinder. Run the meat through using a 3/16 grinding plate. Add garlic, onions and seasoning then mix well. Add just enough water for a smooth consistency, then mix again. Form the sausage mixture into patties or stuff into natural casings.
Stillborn Stew
By definition, this meat cannot be had altogether fresh, but have the lifeless unfortunate available immedia
Place 1 quart water in a baking pan, the meat on a wire rack.
Bake uncovered in 250° oven for 1½ hours.
When browned, remove and glaze,
return to oven and bake 20 minutes more to form a glaze.
Cut ribs into individual pieces and serve with extra sauce.
Fresh Sausage
If it becomes necessary to hide the fact that you are eating
human babies, this is the perfect solution.
But if you are still paranoid, you can substitute pork butt.
5 lb. lean chuck roast
3 lb. prime baby butt
2 tablespoons each:
salt
black, white and cayenne peppers
celery salt
garlic powder
parsley flakes
brown sugar
1 teaspoon sage
2 onions
6 cloves garlic
bunch green onions, chopped
Cut the children?s butts and the beef roast into pieces
that will fit in the grinder.
Run the meat through using a 3/16 grinding plate.
Add garlic, onions and seasoning then mix well.
Add just enough water for a smooth consistency, then mix again.
Form the sausage mixture into patties or stuff into natural casings.
Stillborn Stew
By definition, this meat cannot be had altogether fresh,
but have the lifeless unfortunate available immedia
Place 1 quart water in a baking pan, the meat on a wire rack. Bake uncovered in 250° oven for 1½ hours. When browned, remove and glaze, return to oven and bake 20 minutes more to form a glaze. Cut ribs into individual pieces and serve with extra sauce.
Fresh Sausage
If it becomes necessary to hide the fact that you are eating human babies, this is the perfect solution. But if you are still paranoid, you can substitute pork butt.
5 lb. lean chuck roast 3 lb. prime baby butt 2 tablespoons each: salt black, white and cayenne peppers celery salt garlic powder parsley flakes brown sugar 1 teaspoon sage 2 onions 6 cloves garlic bunch green onions, chopped
Cut the children?s butts and the beef roast into pieces that will fit in the grinder. Run the meat through using a 3/16 grinding plate. Add garlic, onions and seasoning then mix well. Add just enough water for a smooth consistency, then mix again. Form the sausage mixture into patties or stuff into natural casings.
Stillborn Stew
By definition, this meat cannot be had altogether fresh, but have the lifeless unfortunate available immedia
